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tomotada.akutsu - 9:41 Friday 10 February 2023 (23903) Print this report
Noise candidate: CARM noise or beam jitter

Ushiba, YamaT, Akutsu (remote): following 23900 and 23901.

Abstract

Run bruco to get some hints on how to reduce features around 100-300 Hz in the sensitivity. Our first step would be to deal with CARM. Beam jitter treatment at the input optics and stray-light treatment around REFL should follow.

Inspecting channels having high coherence

The 100-300 Hz range seems to be critical for reaching 1 Mpc. So we wanted to reduce the spectral features here first. Bruco results suggested CARM as the first suspect. For example,

  • LSC-REFL_PDA1_RF45_I_OUT_DQ
  • LSC-CARM_SERVO_{FAST,SLOW}_DAQ_OUT_DQ
  • LSC-MCL_OUT_DQ

had high coherence. In addition, beam jitter monitoring/control channels

  • IMC-IMMT1_TRANS_QPDA{1,2}_DC_PIT_OUT_DQ
  • PSL-PZT2_PIT_SUM_OUT_DQ

showed also high coherence. For example see Fig. 1.

Hypotheses and tests

Hypothesis 1: frequency noise would be converted to the beam jitter through MCL feed around. To test this hypothesis, we set a notch filter for CARM MCL path at around 220 Hz to see whether the spectral feature here would disappear or not. Unfortunately, no effect. The feature remained not only in DARM but also beam jitter channels such as IMC-IMMT1_TRANS_QPDA1_DC_PIT_OUT_DQ. So this beam jitter would be there without being induced via the path: CARM MCL to IMC pitch (L2P coupling). When IFI pick off monitor is completed, we may be able to obtain additional clue.

Hypothesis 2: the beam jitter would be induced due to IMC ASC. To test this hypothesis, we simply turned off IMC ASC, but no effects.

Hypothesis 3: the beam jitter would be due to scattered light at input optics such as undumped light for the IFI pick off. To test this, we need to enter the tunnel to deal with the current ad-hoc setup. To be done later.

Hypothesis 4: the beam jitter would be originally in the PSL room. To test this, we tried to see newly set-up QPD on the PSL table but the signal channels had not been DQ at the required rate. To be done later.

Discussion

Assuming the beam jitter would be real, what is the senario that the beam jitter would be converted to DARM through PRC? PRC would convert the beam jitter to amplidude modulation (or vice versa... which is larger?), but so far we could not find strong clue of such amplitude modulation in, for example, POP_FORWARD SUM (note that this PD is within PRC). Maybe this feature would be too faint. Need more careful investigation. Before entering PRC, can we have additional clue whether this would be real beam jitter? For example, ISS channels such as PSL-ISS_FIRST_SERVO_PDA_{INF,RIN}_OUT_DQ showed small coherence but not large. Anyway, for effective discussion, it would be better to take time to make noise budget first.

Anyway, as mentioned above, we already know there would be undumped beam of the IFI pick off. Also we know that stuffs on the REFL table have not been organized yet; setting proper beam dumps at proper locations to dump ghost beams, and cleaning up every unused or loosen screw or part; mechanical parasitic resonances should not be underestimated.

The situation might improve if we can improve S/N of CARM. The power on RFPD for REFL RF45 seems too small (a few x 0.1 mW?) now. Powering-up itself can be done by rotating the relevant HWP in front of this RFPD, but simultaneously we need to reduce gain of the servo. Today (On Feb 9)we tried it during PRFPMI-OMC lock but failed - gain reducing seemgly made large shock to the CARM loop. We may need to re-consider gain allocation of this servo for this purpose.

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shinji.miyoki - 8:39 Friday 10 February 2023 (23904) Print this report

The last? REFL Table check was done by as klog#23130. 

The information about laser power on PD is in klog#14176 around April 2020.

shinji.miyoki - 10:02 Friday 10 February 2023 (23906) Print this report

Hypothesis 2the beam jitter would be induced due to IMC ASC. To test this hypothesis, we simply turned off IMC ASC, but no effects.

Even though the ASC servo was disabled, some DC values with the output noise of the Thorlabs HV driver itself were applied to PZT. This noise is not too much?

The rare bad condition on the connection between PZT and HV driver could cause excess noise on PZT (in CLIO). In such a case, analog LPF for HV is effective between them.

 

shinji.miyoki - 10:26 Friday 10 February 2023 (23908) Print this report

According to Uchiyama-kun's check about when we changed from TMP to Ion during O3 commissioning, the change date was amazingly early as,

Although the vacuum level in MICH area is higher by ~10 times than those in XY arm, it might be better to start changing if TMP vibration affects on sensitivity.

Please note that the TMP and Ion between IMMT-IFI tanks were off now.

tomotada.akutsu - 11:59 Friday 10 February 2023 (23907) Print this report

What we were doing in O3GK? Some useful posts discussing CARM-like effects to DARM:

tomotada.akutsu - 12:06 Friday 10 February 2023 (23913) Print this report

With turning off IMC ASC, in my guess, PZT fluctuation such as IP2 before IMC would be converted to intensity fluctuation after IMC...

But at the same time, I've heard of the PZT fluctuation would come through as beam jitter even after IMC in someone's observation in O3GK, so need investigation.

takafumi.ushiba - 12:26 Friday 10 February 2023 (23912) Print this report

I checked coherence between DARM and REFL PEM sensors (microphone and accelerometer).
Several peaks have a coherence but no significant wide-band coherence.
So, the structure from 100 - 300 Hz in DARM spectrum doesn't seem to come from REFL table vibration.

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takashi.uchiyama - 13:13 Friday 10 February 2023 (23915) Print this report
2023/02/10

Uchiyama

I treated IFI pickoff beam written in the following item.
>Hypothesis 3: the beam jitter would be due to scattered light at input optics such as undumped light for the IFI pick off. To test this, we need to enter the tunnel to deal with the current ad-hoc setup. To be done later.

I removed the stainless dish used as a viewport cover. Then, I put an IR laser absorption sheet on the surface of the REFL optical table cover.
Since I found a reflection beam from the absorption sheet to the flange of GVmc, I also put the absorption sheet on the flange.

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tomotada.akutsu - 13:32 Friday 10 February 2023 (23918) Print this report

What a cruel story... we took some amount of time to extract THIS beam. So sad. Literally squeezed.

shinji.miyoki - 16:22 Friday 10 February 2023 (23926) Print this report

The length between the REFL table wall and the window on the IFI tank seems to be long. 

So, if we want to put a QPD in the REFL table with a hole on the REFL table wall, we need a well-designed metal tube.

shinji.miyoki - 16:30 Friday 10 February 2023 (23927) Print this report

Several sharp line noises around 500, 700, and 900Hz with foot slopes can be a hint of noise sources. The very sharp and high line noise around 460Hz comes from TMP whose rotation rate is ~ 27600 rpm (Shimazu) and ~ 27000 rpm (Edwards).

Some rotating stuff generates them??

shinji.miyoki - 21:37 Friday 10 February 2023 (23928) Print this report

In the PSL room, we have started flowing water for 3 or 2 beam dumpers and HPL. Can they vibrate the PSL room optical table a lot? Can we take a coherence with some accelerometers on the PSL room optical table? 

However, the ACCs on the optical table do have not enough sensitivity because the water flow effect can be detected by using RION servo-type seismometer in my past experience.

shinji.miyoki - 10:01 Monday 13 February 2023 (23936) Print this report

At present, the following additional TMPs are now operated from O3GK: EXV(31), EYV(30), IYA(40), IXA(41), EXC(39), EYA(38), TMSX(27), TMSY(26). The number in () can be found in the attached file.

The following TMPs are off: SR2(4)->broken, IFI(9) off for ISS.

Other TMPs except for 4 in Xarm, 3 in Yarm, and IXV(29)/IYV(28) are also operated now. These 9 TMPs were changed to Ion pumps.

Before the success of PRFPMI+DC_Readout around the beginning of Feb 2020, all TMPs were forcibly off and Ions were operated even if the vacuum level was worse than now. So, we have no data on the sensitivity curve with operated TMPs. In addition to this, the first sensitivity curve was worse than the present level.

Anyway, at least we should mitigate the highest peak around 460Hz generated by TMPs that did not exist in this data.  Otherwise, the dynamic range will be occupied with this sinusoidal signal and we may not be able to obtain lower ADC/DAC noise floor?

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