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kiwamu.izumi - 5:08 Saturday 22 June 2019 (9314) Print this report
Polarization in the centeral interferometer likely messed up

Darkhan, Yutaro, Kiwamu,

Conducting some more power measurements in order to understand the optical loss in PRMI (9300), we started realizing that the polarization in the central interferometer may not be healthy.

The interferometer beam is supposed to be S-pol, but the reflected beam from the ITMs have P-polarization component at 5-10% level.

Our wild guess is that this P-pol has to do with the optical loss that we saw in the PRMI.


[Power measurement at POP and REFL ports]

Suspecting that the PR2 transmissivity is not correct, we checked the optical powers at the POP. The results suggest that the PR2 transmissivity is OK.

  • POP, Forward propagation beam = 628 mV using PDA100A with 20 dB setting
  • POP, Backward propagation bam = 307 mV using PDA100A with 20 dB setting
    • Note that the reflection from ITMX and ITMY are spatially separated so that the intensity should be half of that in the forward propagation beam due to the BS.
  • Therefore the total loss as the beam bounces off of the ITMs is estimated to be 1 - 307*2/628 = 2.2% (including ITM transmission)

 

  • REFL, PRM direct reflection = 1455 +/-2 cnts using REFL-PDA1
  • REFL, ITMX single bounce = 3.82 +/- 0.02 cnts using REFL-PDA1
  • REFL, ITMY single bounce = 3.72 +/- 0.01 using REFL-PDA1
  • Therefore, loss in ITMX = 12% (including ITM trans)
  • Therefore, loss in ITMY = 15% (including ITM trans)

From these measurements, we conclude that REFL sees much higher optical loss than POP. This discrepancy can be explained if the polarization is messed up as the beam bounces off of the ITMs.

[Polarization measurements]

Then we moved onto the polarization measurements

  • ITMX single bounce, POP backward propagation
    • S: 135 mV using PDA100A with 20 dB setting
    • P: 14 mV using PDA100A with 20 db setting
    • This corresponds to loss of 9.4% for S-pol
  • ITMY single bounce, POP backward propagation
    • S: 124 mV using PDA100A with 20 dB setting
    • P: 6 mV using PDA100A with 20 dB setting
    • This corresponds to loss of 4.6% for S-pol.

The below are the results from our measurements for the POS beam. However, the beam size was as large as or perhaps larger than the aperture of PDA100A. So the values may not be accurate.

  • POS, S: 2.09 V using PDA100A with 40 dB setting
  • POS, P: 0.25 V using PDA100A with 40 dB setting
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darkhan.tuyenbayev - 5:21 Saturday 22 June 2019 (9315) Print this report

Here are two clips recorded when rotating the polarization of the beam in front of the POP camera for the cases when

  • ITMX,
  • or ITMY

was aligned. Each of the clips is taken by (mostly) uniformly rotating the half-wave plate by about 180 degrees.

Spatial patterns of the S- and P-polarized beam spots are attached as well.

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shinji.miyoki - 10:58 Saturday 22 June 2019 (9317) Print this report
According to http://klog.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/osl/?r=9300

the laser power reflected from ITMs (S and P polarized power were
combined) was already different.

So, can we suspect that the injected beam itself toward BS has P-polarized part for BS because the miss-matched injection results in unbalance between transmitted power and reflected power at BS ?

Sorry if I misunderstand.
masayuki.nakano - 11:50 Saturday 22 June 2019 (9318) Print this report

Hey Kiwamu,

I could not get the number of loss at ITMs. In my calculation for ITMX for instance, the loss is 1-3.82/(1455/0.9*0.1*0.5*0.1*0.5) = 5.5 %.
Do I have any stupid mistake?

yoichi.aso - 13:18 Saturday 22 June 2019 (9319) Print this report

Did you measure the polarization contents of the forward going beam of POP ?

Also how did you measure the polarization ?

kiwamu.izumi - 16:06 Saturday 22 June 2019 (9320) Print this report

-Hi Yoichi,

A good point. We don't have a measured number for the polarization contents of the forward propagation beam at POP.

We actually looked at the brightness of the S and P-pol. of the forward propagating beam at POP by eyes with a sensor card. The P-pol. light was so dim that we were not able to see it by eyes and therefore assumed that the incoming beam was purely S-pol.  We will try to measure it shortly.

The measurement was done by inserting a PBS plate, PBSW-1064 1 inch from Thorlabs, and measuring the amount light in the transmission and reflection sides at a time using a PDA100A. Since we didn't like to have an extra polarization sensitive optic in the measurement, such as a harmonic separator and S-pol BSs, we inserted the PBSW-1064 before the beam arrives at the periscope. The dark offset was carefully subtracted every time when we made the power measurement. In addition, we paid attention such that the incident angle of the beam on PBSW-1064 to be close to 45 deg although this is done by our eyeball. Perhaps a precision of 1 deg or smaller.

-Hi Shinji,

It is possible that the incident beam was already messed up in the polarization. You are totally right that the BS can introduce asymmetry in between the optical power in reflection and transmission if the incident beam already contained a P-pol content. As stated above, we will be assessing the polarization content of the incident beam shortly.

-Hi Masayuki,

Aha, sorry for the confusion. The trick is that we have assumed the transmissivity of PRM to be 10.35% rather than 10.00%. This 10.35% was a value that Yutaro obtained from Hirose-san through the email-exchange at one point in the past. We don't know how accurate this number is. In fact, this illuminates another issue that our estimation is quite vulnerable against uncertainties in the PRM transmissivity.

kiwamu.izumi - 16:34 Saturday 22 June 2019 (9323) Print this report

-Addendum for those who are interested in the PR2 transmissivity

According to our measurement (628 mV for the forward POP beam using a PDA100A with 20 dB setting), the optical power of the forward-propagating beam is approximately 140 uW. Here is the calculation;

P = 628 [mV] / (0.3 [A/W] * 1.5e4 [V/A]) = 139.6 uW.

Assuming that the IMC trans was 3-ish W. The design tranmissivity of 500 ppm for PR2 gives us an expected power of 150-ish uW.

Therefore, we determined that the PR2 optic was healthy in terms of the transmissivity.

masayuki.nakano - 9:20 Sunday 23 June 2019 (9328) Print this report

Hey Kiwamu,

THanks, I got it. I was supprised that 0.35 % difference makes the change of loss by factor of 2 or more.

Another question is that is the polarization of backpropergating light linear? If so, the missed-up polarization migh be becuase of the reflection plane issue, and if not, it might be because of birefringence in some optics inside the PRC.
 

shinji.miyoki - 15:13 Sunday 23 June 2019 (9329) Print this report
Although the P polarization images are different from the point of view of strength, the spot positions seem to be symmetrical by accident.

One image (red for Y arm )is horisontally flipping image.

This might imply that the source of P generation is common?
In addition to this, the amount of P in X is almost double of P in Y according to http://klog.icrr.u-tokyo.ac.jp/osl/?r=9314 .
X path has double paths in BS and Y path has one path in BS. These conditions seem to have consistency.

Birefringence of BS ?? or still in Sapphire ??
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shinji.miyoki - 7:48 Monday 24 June 2019 (9336) Print this report
In Virgo, BS is suspended by wire wrapping like KAGRA. But no report of such phenomena. So BS might be healthy in KAGRA.

If the P generation is in sapphire mirrors(ITMXY) in the same manner, the image flip can be reasonable. However, in this case, we need the manner that generates the same structure.
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