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kentaro.komori - 2:25 Friday 11 April 2025 (33343) Print this report
Increasing power at the out-of-loop CARM PD

[Ushiba, Yokozawa, Komori]

Abstract:

We increased the laser power at the out-of-loop CARM PD to measure the input jitter with better signal-to-noise ratio.

Detail:

As discussed in klog:33312, we aim to subtract input jitter noise using the out-of-loop CARM signal from REFL PDA3.
To enhance the signal-to-noise ratio of the jitter signal, we increased the optical power incident on PDA3 as much as possible.

First, we rotated the half wave plate to change the power entering PDA3, and PDA4 for potential usage as REFL MICH detection.
Since the power at PDA4 was initially higher than that at PDA3, we adjusted the power at PDA4 to approximately 50 mW during PRMI 3F locking, when the power on PDs gets maximum.
This value of 50 mW is upper limit of the incident power to the PD.
Consequently, the power at PDA3 increased to roughly 35 mW—five times higher than before this adjustment.

However, we found that the interferometer could not be locked with this configuration, as significant noise was introduced during the IR handover.
Ushiba-san suspected that the cause was the well-known crosstalk between the REFL PDs and the green phase signal, which appeared to be affecting the system again in this case.
The attached figure shows a comparison of various signals with and without light incident on PDA3 and PDA4, supporting the hypothesis that crosstalk was the primary issue.

To resolve this, we completely blocked the light to PDA4—which has not been used so far—and reduced the power on PDA3 by half.
With this configuration, we successfully recovered the interferometer lock.

As a result, the optical power on PDA3 during the observation state increased from 2.8 mW before this work, to 8.2 mW.

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takahiro.yamamoto - 21:34 Friday 11 April 2025 (33373) Print this report

Though I'm not sure the exact time of increasing REFL power, PDA3_RF45_I frequently saturates during OBSERVATION_WITHOUT_LINES at ADC after that day. Saturation appeared since 12:30 on Apr. 10th.

Bottom panels of Fig.1 shows the overflow counts for RF45_I and RF45_Q. During OBSERVATION_WITH_OUT_LINES (= top left panel is ~10000), we can see non-zero values on bottom panels. Fig.2 shows same figures with more shorter duration.

In such case, it's difficult to use them as the witness sensors for the jitter subtraction. So I removed the 3rd stage of whitening filter and added 12dB gain to use ADC range effectively (Whitening settings was changed around 21:30). Because these channels are not used for any control, there should be no problem for the lock acquisition and stable operations.

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kentaro.komori - 23:37 Saturday 12 April 2025 (33378) Print this report

[TYamamoto, Komori]

Abstract:

The signal-to-noise ratio of the jitter peaks improved due to the increased power at PDA3.
The in-loop CARM signal (PDA1) is also saturating, so we should address this issue.

Detail:

We compared the out-of-loop CARM signals before (cyan) and after (brown and blue) increasing the optical power at REFL PDA3, as shown in the upper panel of Fig.1.
The saturation issue at PDA3 was resolved thanks to YamaT-san, and as a result, the spectrum improved from the brown to the blue trace.
We confirmed that saturation was no longer present when the blue spectrum was recorded, unlike the brown spectrum, which showed clear signs of saturation (compare Fig. 3 and Fig. 2).
The signal-to-noise ratio of the jitter peaks improved due to the increased power at PDA3, suggesting that we can expect more effective subtraction of these peaks now.

We also compared the in-loop CARM signals (from PDA1) taken at the same times, shown in the lower panel of Fig.1.
The red spectrum shows a higher magnitude than the others due to the increased power at PDA1 (klog:33372).
These traces show a similar bump around 100 Hz, and we confirmed that saturation was also occurring at PDA1 during the measurement (Fig.4).

To address this, we should update the whitening filter settings.
We must proceed with caution since the PDA1 signal is used at DGCARM during both acquisition.
Furthermore, we should confirm that such saturation is not occurring in the CMS filter.

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takafumi.ushiba - 20:02 Monday 14 April 2025 (33414) Print this report

I changed the PDA1 REFL 45 whitening setting as follows:
Before: 3-stage dewhitening with overall gain of the unity.
After: 2-stage dewhitening with overll gain of 12dB (fig1).

This modification was implemented into the guardian, so it should not affect to DGCARM.

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